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The day the War was lost


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So you think you know what a Confederate Flag looks like? Here are a few you probably haven't seen before.
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Lt Genl Leonidas K Polk's Flag Genl Polk was also the Bishop of Louisiana
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citdog wrote:8th Arkansas Infantry "Hardee Pattern Flag"
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That is one tasty flag.
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citdog wrote:8th Arkansas Infantry "Hardee Pattern Flag"
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That is one tasty flag.


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citdog wrote:The day the War was lost


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So, you essentially lost the war because some dumbass didn't know the password? Between that and leaving orders rolled up with cigars, did ya'll really even have a chance? Ya'll should've elected McClellan president as he did as much to keep you in the first 2 years of the war as any Southern general.... :coffee:
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citdog wrote:The day the War was lost


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No wonder Lee was crying in this clip...

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Appaholic wrote:
citdog wrote:The day the War was lost


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So, you essentially lost the war because some dumbass didn't know the password? Between that and leaving orders rolled up with cigars, did ya'll really even have a chance? Ya'll should've elected McClellan president as he did as much to keep you in the first 2 years of the war as any Southern general.... :coffee:
Appa when an army of 60,000 UTTERLY ROUTS an army of 134,000 like the Army of Northern Virginia did at Chancellorsville there is bound to be some difficulty in pursuing the beaten enemy. Genl Jackson's wounding and death was a blow from which it was impossible to recover. Jackson would not have left the yankees on that hill at Gettysburg after the first day. With Jackson we win that battle and probably the War before 1 Aug 1863.

Genl McClellan's army could not defeat Lee even knowing all of his plans. Lee stood an entire day at Sharpsburg and invited him to attack. No advance was made. now in 1864 I was a McClellan Man!
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citdog wrote:
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So, you essentially lost the war because some dumbass didn't know the password? Between that and leaving orders rolled up with cigars, did ya'll really even have a chance? Ya'll should've elected McClellan president as he did as much to keep you in the first 2 years of the war as any Southern general.... :coffee:
Appa when an army of 60,000 UTTERLY ROUTS an army of 134,000 like the Army of Northern Virginia did at Chancellorsville there is bound to be some difficulty in pursuing the beaten enemy. Genl Jackson's wounding and death was a blow from which it was impossible to recover. Jackson would not have left the yankees on that hill at Gettysburg after the first day. With Jackson we win that battle and probably the War before 1 Aug 1863.

Genl McClellan's army could not defeat Lee even knowing all of his plans. Lee stood an entire day at Sharpsburg and invited him to attack. No advance was made. now in 1864 I was a McClellan Man!
That explains it...I thought the South lost because Lee was felching Jackson and God disapproved, striking down both Jackson and the confederacy....
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citdog wrote:
Appa when an army of 60,000 UTTERLY ROUTS an army of 134,000 like the Army of Northern Virginia did at Chancellorsville there is bound to be some difficulty in pursuing the beaten enemy. Genl Jackson's wounding and death was a blow from which it was impossible to recover. Jackson would not have left the yankees on that hill at Gettysburg after the first day. With Jackson we win that battle and probably the War before 1 Aug 1863.

Genl McClellan's army could not defeat Lee even knowing all of his plans. Lee stood an entire day at Sharpsburg and invited him to attack. No advance was made. now in 1864 I was a McClellan Man!
That explains it...I thought the South lost because Lee was felching Jackson and God disapproved, striking down both Jackson and the confederacy....
I think you have Genl's Lee and Jackson confused with union genl james wilson. wilson, like you, was no stranger to having things up his ass.
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citdog wrote: I think you have Genl's Lee and Jackson confused with union genl james wilson. wilson, like you, was no stranger to having things up his ass.
Wasn't Jeff Davis captured in women's clothing?

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
citdog wrote: I think you have Genl's Lee and Jackson confused with union genl james wilson. wilson, like you, was no stranger to having things up his ass.
Wasn't Jeff Davis captured in women's clothing?

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President Davis was not captured in drag. What you do not know would fill volumes. Your ignorance on all subjects is just astounding. I feel very sorry for your mother. She should have coathangered you.
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:lol: Jeff Davis - your CSA president and a felching gaywad to boot..... :rofl:
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citdog wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Wasn't Jeff Davis captured in women's clothing?

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President Davis was not captured in drag. What you do not know would fill volumes. Your ignorance on all subjects is just astounding. I feel very sorry for your mother. She should have coathangered you.
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mrklean wrote:
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President Davis was not captured in drag. What you do not know would fill volumes. Your ignorance on all subjects is just astounding. I feel very sorry for your mother. She should have coathangered you.
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Irish Born General Patrick Cleburne "Let us die like Men".

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Cleburne and Brown's attack at Franklin. Tenn. Twice as long as Pickett's attack at Gettysburg. Death of Genl. Cleburne.

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citdog wrote:Irish Born General Patrick Cleburne "Let us die like Men".

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Cleburne and Brown's attack at Franklin. Tenn. Twice as long as Pickett's attack at Gettysburg. Death of Genl. Cleburne.

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Didn't really die like men - it was a slaughter. You'd had thought that that late in the war, after seeing numerous examples of why you don't frontally assault fortified positions (Fredricksburg, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor, etc) that they would've come up with another idea. I know the war was lost well before Franklin, but that assault, coupled with the ridiculous attempt to siege Nashville right afterwards (the equivalent of a wobbly boxer stumbling forward to walk into the knockout blow from the opponent) did much to tar Hood's war record. Certainly had plenty of initiative, but bravely ordering men to their certain death with no hopes of victory isn't terribly honorable.
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GannonFan wrote:
citdog wrote:Irish Born General Patrick Cleburne "Let us die like Men".

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Cleburne and Brown's attack at Franklin. Tenn. Twice as long as Pickett's attack at Gettysburg. Death of Genl. Cleburne.

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Didn't really die like men - it was a slaughter. You'd had thought that that late in the war, after seeing numerous examples of why you don't frontally assault fortified positions (Fredricksburg, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor, etc) that they would've come up with another idea. I know the war was lost well before Franklin, but that assault, coupled with the ridiculous attempt to siege Nashville right afterwards (the equivalent of a wobbly boxer stumbling forward to walk into the knockout blow from the opponent) did much to tar Hood's war record. Certainly had plenty of initiative, but bravely ordering men to their certain death with no hopes of victory isn't terribly honorable.
It was a desperate time and Genl Hood was put in command by President Davis to fight. The morale of the Army of Tennessee had been weakened by the tactics of Genl Johnston and his retreat from Chattanooga to Atlanta. While Johnston defeated Sherman when they fought, Ringgold Gap, Kennesaw Mtn, Resaca , Tunnel Hill etc, Sherman always flanked Johnston out of the strong defensive positions that he took. Hood was given command when it no longer was possible to save Atlanta even though it took Sherman more than 40 days to finally cut the Decatur road and force Hood out of Atlanta. Any retrograde movement by the Army of Tennessee from Atlanta would have probably have destroyed it. The men were in good spirits as many of them were marching to defend their own homes in Tennessee. The assault at Franklin was Hood at his most aggressive. He should have bagged the whole lot of the yankee invader at Spring Hill and Hood and everyone else knew it. The Confederate Soldier at Franklin, Tennessee was MAGNIFICENT. He performed like he always performed. He took his orders and said to the devil with the odds and he fought for what God gave him the ability to see as right and he drove the yankees from the field. That is HEROIC and no matter how hard those like you, who hate him because man for man he was BETTER than you, try and tear him down his fame and good name are secure for US to pass down to our Sons. It is no wonder you yankees have chosen to forget. If members of my family committed the vile outrages upon decency and humanity that yours did.....I'd want to forget too.

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citdog wrote:
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Didn't really die like men - it was a slaughter. You'd had thought that that late in the war, after seeing numerous examples of why you don't frontally assault fortified positions (Fredricksburg, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor, etc) that they would've come up with another idea. I know the war was lost well before Franklin, but that assault, coupled with the ridiculous attempt to siege Nashville right afterwards (the equivalent of a wobbly boxer stumbling forward to walk into the knockout blow from the opponent) did much to tar Hood's war record. Certainly had plenty of initiative, but bravely ordering men to their certain death with no hopes of victory isn't terribly honorable.
It was a desperate time and Genl Hood was put in command by President Davis to fight. The morale of the Army of Tennessee had been weakened by the tactics of Genl Johnston and his retreat from Chattanooga to Atlanta. While Johnston defeated Sherman when they fought, Ringgold Gap, Kennesaw Mtn, Resaca , Tunnel Hill etc, Sherman always flanked Johnston out of the strong defensive positions that he took. Hood was given command when it no longer was possible to save Atlanta even though it took Sherman more than 40 days to finally cut the Decatur road and force Hood out of Atlanta. Any retrograde movement by the Army of Tennessee from Atlanta would have probably have destroyed it. The men were in good spirits as many of them were marching to defend their own homes in Tennessee. The assault at Franklin was Hood at his most aggressive. He should have bagged the whole lot of the yankee invader at Spring Hill and Hood and everyone else knew it. The Confederate Soldier at Franklin, Tennessee was MAGNIFICENT. He performed like he always performed. He took his orders and said to the devil with the odds and he fought for what God gave him the ability to see as right and he drove the yankees from the field. That is HEROIC and no matter how hard those like you, who hate him because man for man he was BETTER than you, try and tear him down his fame and good name are secure for US to pass down to our Sons. It is no wonder you yankees have chosen to forget. If members of my family committed the vile outrages upon decency and humanity that yours did.....I'd want to forget too.

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You sure Hood wasn't just trying to impress some girl who wouldn't give him the time of day? :geek:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Levon Helm as John Bell Hood in Into the Electric Mist:
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Genl Hood, by the time he was appointed to replace Genl Johnston, had lost the use of his right arm and had his leg amputated due to wounds received leading the famous Texas Brigade. They had to strap him into the saddle so he could ride. He was personally brave to a fault and earned his nom de guerre "The Gallant Hood". Appa I have read in Mary Chestnut's diary that there was a young woman that Hood courted while he was recuperating in Richmond from his Gettysburg wound but it is difficult to say that's why he ordered the attack at Franklin. I think the Spring Hill affair is what lead to Franklin.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Levon Helm as John Bell Hood in Into the Electric Mist:
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Genl Hood, by the time he was appointed to replace Genl Johnston, had lost the use of his right arm and had his leg amputated due to wounds received leading the famous Texas Brigade. They had to strap him into the saddle so he could ride. He was personally brave to a fault and earned his nom de guerre "The Gallant Hood". Appa I have read in Mary Chestnut's diary that there was a young woman that Hood courted while he was recuperating in Richmond from his Gettysburg wound but it is difficult to say that's why he ordered the attack at Franklin. I think the Spring Hill affair is what lead to Franklin.
Conventional wisdom (and when I saw conventional wisdom, I mean people like Shelby Foote and Bruce Catton) relates that Hood was upset over Spring Hill and Franklin was his attempt to 'put the iron' to the army for the earlier reticence. It was a brave moment but it was also a petulant one. Hood was a fighter, and his bravery has never been in question, but at Franklin he was channeling Grant at Cold Harbor.
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