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Has she looked in a mirror recently? If she’s not a fan of “unelected members” making decisions on behalf of the entire country, why is she even sitting on our nation’s highest court?.

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A social system of discrimination created an environment in which LGBT people were unsafe. Who could forget the brutal murder of Matthew Shepard? Matthew was targeted by two men, tortured, tied to a buck fence, and left to die for who he was. See K. Drake, Gay Man Beaten, Burned and Left Tied to Fence, Casper Star-Tribune, Oct. 10, 1998, p.A1. Or the Pulse nightclub massacre, the second-deadliest mass shooting in U. S. history?
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Pulse wasn’t picked because it was a gay night club. Omar Mateen had pledged allegiance to ISIS, opposed U.S. actions towards Syria, and reportedly didn’t even know Pulse was a gay nightclub, picking it because it wasn’t well-guarded.

‘Wise Latina’ my arse.. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:03 am 6-3 in gay weddings case:
Supreme Court Rules Christian Web Design Company Does Not Have to Promote Gay Weddings
https://redstate.com/streiff/2023/06/30 ... gs-n769284

6-3 striking down Biden student loan program:
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... ation-plan

And the left predictably is losing their collective shit..
Including striking down affirmative action yesterday, all 3 decisions 6-3, all 3 times with brilliant dissents from 3 womyn dissenters Kagan, the Wise Latina, and What is a Woman..
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If it is now unconstitutional to discriminate on the basis of race in college admissions, shouldn’t it now be unconstitutional to discriminate on the basis of race in hiring (public or private), racial preferences in the awarding of govt contracts, etc? :coffee:
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Typical racist progtard view (with currently 28.9 million views) that blacks aren’t capable of succeeding in this country in a merit based system..

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:53 am Gorsuch Issues Brutal Takedown of Sotomayor's Dissenting Opinion in 303 Creative Case

The wise Latina:
"The Supreme Court of the United States declares that a particular kind of business, though open to the public, has a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of a protected class. The Court does so for the first time in its history,”
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It is difficult to read the dissent and conclude we are looking at the same case. Much of it focuses on the evolution of public accommodations laws, post, at 7–13, and the strides gay Americans have made towards securing equal justice under law, post, at 14–17. And, no doubt, there is much to applaud here. But none of this answers the question we face today: Can a State force someone who provides her own expressive services to abandon her conscience and speak its preferred message instead?

When the dissent finally gets around to that question—more than halfway into its opinion—it reimagines the facts of this case from top to bottom. The dissent claims that Colorado wishes to regulate Ms. Smith’s “conduct,” not her speech.Post, at 24–29. Forget Colorado’s stipulation that Ms. Smith’s activities are “expressive,” App. to Pet. for Cert.181a, and the Tenth Circuit’s conclusion that the State seeks to compel “pure speech,” 6 F. 4th, at 1176. The dissent chides us for deciding a pre-enforcement challenge. Post, at 23. But it ignores the Tenth Circuit’s finding that Ms. Smith faces a credible threat of sanctions unless she conforms her views to the State’s. 6 F. 4th, at 1172–1175.The dissent suggests (over and over again) that any burden on speech here is “incidental.” Post, at 24, 26–30, 32–33. All despite the Tenth Circuit’s finding that Colorado intends to force Ms. Smith to convey a message she does not believe with the “very purpose” of “[e]liminating . . . ideas”that differ from its own. 6 F. 4th, at 1178.4

Nor does the dissent’s reimagination end there. It claims that, “for the first time in its history,” the Court “grants a business open to the public” a “right to refuse to serve members of a protected class.” Post, at 1; see also id., at 26, n. 10,35. Never mind that we do no such thing and Colorado itself has stipulated Ms. Smith will (as CADA requires) “work with all people regardless of . . . sexual orientation.” App.to Pet. for Cert. 184a. Never mind, too, that it is the dissent that would have this Court do something truly novel by allowing a government to coerce an individual to speak contrary to her beliefs on a significant issue of personal conviction, all in order to eliminate ideas that differ from its own.

There is still more. The dissent asserts that we “sweep under the rug petitioners’ challenge to CADA’s Communication Clause.” Post, at 26. This despite the fact the parties and the Tenth Circuit recognized that Ms. Smith’s Communication Clause challenge hinges on her Accommodation Clause challenge. (So much so that Colorado devoted less than two pages at the tail end of its brief to the Communication Clause and the Tenth Circuit afforded it just three paragraphs in its free-speech analysis. See Brief for Respondents 44–45; 6 F. 4th, at 1182–1183.)5 The dissent even suggests that our decision today is akin to endorsing a “separate but equal” regime that would allow law firms to refuse women admission into partnership, restaurants to deny service to Black Americans, or businesses seeking employees to post something like a “White Applicants Only”sign. Post, at 1, 16–21, 26, 28–29, 32, and n. 13, 37. Pure fiction all.

In some places, the dissent gets so turned around about the facts that it opens fire on its own position. For instance:While stressing that a Colorado company cannot refuse “the full and equal enjoyment of [its] services” based on a customer’s protected status, post, at 27, the dissent assures us that a company selling creative services “to the public” does have a right “to decide what messages to include or not to include,” post, at 28. But if that is true, what are we even debating?
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GannonFan wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:04 pm I will say, the past few cases have been excellent in terms of the justices arguing out loud (well, in the written word) in their opinions. Truth be told, that's the kind of opinions and dissents I want to hear, point going after the other point. Makes the cases much more accessible that way.
It goes to show you that the affirmative action nominations Donks have made to the SCOTUS over the years are not quite up to the job. :nod:
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Baldy wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:14 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:53 am Gorsuch Issues Brutal Takedown of Sotomayor's Dissenting Opinion in 303 Creative Case

The wise Latina:


Gorsuch:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarko ... e-n2625179
When "bake the damn cake" comes back to bite you in the ass. :rofl:
“Any discrimination is wrong”

“Hey can we put a no gays sign?”

“We’ll I don’t see why not…”

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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:16 am
Baldy wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:14 am
When "bake the damn cake" comes back to bite you in the ass. :rofl:
“Any discrimination is wrong”

“Hey can we put a no gays sign?”

“We’ll I don’t see why not…”

:lol:
"But its OK when we do it"
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Baldy wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:27 am
kalm wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:16 am

“Any discrimination is wrong”

“Hey can we put a no gays sign?”

“We’ll I don’t see why not…”

:lol:
"But its OK when we do it"
Exactly!

So much of our legal rulings is sophistry driven politics.
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Baldy wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:19 am
GannonFan wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:04 pm I will say, the past few cases have been excellent in terms of the justices arguing out loud (well, in the written word) in their opinions. Truth be told, that's the kind of opinions and dissents I want to hear, point going after the other point. Makes the cases much more accessible that way.
It goes to show you that the affirmative action nominations Donks have made to the SCOTUS over the years are not quite up to the job. :nod:
No kidding. And getting a view of Garland as AG has been a real eye opener.
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Baldy wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:19 am
GannonFan wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:04 pm I will say, the past few cases have been excellent in terms of the justices arguing out loud (well, in the written word) in their opinions. Truth be told, that's the kind of opinions and dissents I want to hear, point going after the other point. Makes the cases much more accessible that way.
It goes to show you that the affirmative action nominations Donks have made to the SCOTUS over the years are not quite up to the job. :nod:
Yep. Prime examples why you don’t openly declared beforehand that you are only going to do quota picks.
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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:16 am
Baldy wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:14 am
When "bake the damn cake" comes back to bite you in the ass. :rofl:
“Any discrimination is wrong”

“Hey can we put a no gays sign?”

“We’ll I don’t see why not…”

:lol:
Newsflash: Gays could, and can still, purchase from that bakery, and from that web designer.
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Baldy wrote:
GannonFan wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:04 pm I will say, the past few cases have been excellent in terms of the justices arguing out loud (well, in the written word) in their opinions. Truth be told, that's the kind of opinions and dissents I want to hear, point going after the other point. Makes the cases much more accessible that way.
It goes to show you that the affirmative action nominations Donks have made to the SCOTUS over the years are not quite up to the job. :nod:
Yep, they’re on par with Alito and Thomas.


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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:44 am
Baldy wrote: It goes to show you that the affirmative action nominations Donks have made to the SCOTUS over the years are not quite up to the job. :nod:
Yep, they’re on par with Alito and Thomas.


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Did HW Bush say beforehand ‘I am only going to nominate a black man?’

Did W say beforehand ‘I am onky going to nominate a white man’ or more specifically an Italian-American man?

If not, they aren’t on par..
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:44 am
Yep, they’re on par with Alito and Thomas.


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Did HW Bush say beforehand ‘I am only going to nominate a black man?’

Did W say beforehand ‘I am onky going to nominate a white man’ or more specifically an Italian-American man?

If not, they aren’t on par..
I was posting about how good they were as justices and in that comparison they’re on par.


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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:48 pm
BDKJMUYahoo wrote: Did HW Bush say beforehand ‘I am only going to nominate a black man?’

Did W say beforehand ‘I am onky going to nominate a white man’ or more specifically an Italian-American man?

If not, they aren’t on par..
I was posting about how good they were as justices and in that comparison they’re on par.


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We’ll have to agree to disagree then on Alito/Thomas not being way better than Sotomayor/Brown.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:25 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:48 pm
I was posting about how good they were as justices and in that comparison they’re on par.


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We’ll have to agree to disagree then on Alito/Thomas not being way better than Sotomayor/Brown.
History won’t smile on either and Roberts legacy will be a mixed bag at best.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:48 pm I was posting about how good they were as justices and in that comparison they’re on par.


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We’ll have to agree to disagree then on Alito/Thomas not being way better than Sotomayor/Brown.
All 4 base their decisions on ideology more than law.


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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:46 pm
BDKJMU wrote: We’ll have to agree to disagree then on Alito/Thomas not being way better than Sotomayor/Brown.
All 4 base their decisions on ideology more than law.


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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:48 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:46 pm
All 4 base their decisions on ideology more than law.


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They shouldn’t be basing their decisions on law. They should be basing it on the Constitution.
You mean like deciding cases on things that actually happened vs. hypotheticals?
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:04 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:03 am 6-3 in gay weddings case:
Supreme Court Rules Christian Web Design Company Does Not Have to Promote Gay Weddings
https://redstate.com/streiff/2023/06/30 ... gs-n769284

6-3 striking down Biden student loan program:
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... ation-plan

And the left predictably is losing their collective shit..
Including striking down affirmative action yesterday, all 3 decisions 6-3, all 3 times with brilliant dissents from 3 womyn dissenters Kagan, the Wise Latina, and What is a Woman..
Frustrated incel looks back on his lifetime of celibacy, blames SCOTUS for not getting any pussy
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BDKJMU wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:46 pm
All 4 base their decisions on ideology more than law.


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They shouldn’t be basing their decisions on law. They should be basing it on the Constitution.
The Constitution is the bedrock but laws passed by Congress and previous decisions are also factors. Personal opinions and ideology should not be factors.

Alito and Thomas are crappy jurists.


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kalm wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:08 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:48 pm
They shouldn’t be basing their decisions on law. They should be basing it on the Constitution.
You mean like deciding cases on things that actually happened vs. hypotheticals?
You mean cases where lower courts have already decided that a petitioner had standing to bring a pre-enforcement challenge?
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Baldy wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:43 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:08 am

You mean like deciding cases on things that actually happened vs. hypotheticals?
You mean cases where lower courts have already decided that a petitioner had standing to bring a pre-enforcement challenge?
So SCOTUS can’t overturn lower courts or precedence?

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