Aren’t you the one bitching about the ones who want the big house/yard and multiple cars?∞∞∞ wrote:So we're on the same page.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
The American dream is whatever YOU think it is and you dont get to tell others what it is.
Its an individual Pursuit of happiness.
No, I scold those who own multiple homes and use them as investment properties which drive up neighborhood prices and make home ownership unobtainable for people. And the snowball effect is that developers see this and end up abandoning the entry-level market.CID1990 wrote:Aren’t you the one bitching about the ones who want the big house/yard and multiple cars?∞∞∞ wrote: So we're on the same page.
Nobody’s scolding you about the digs you like.
Dude∞∞∞ wrote:No, I scold those who own multiple homes and use them as investment properties which drive up neighborhood prices and make home ownership unobtainable for people. And the snowball effect is that developers see this and end up abandoning the entry-level market.CID1990 wrote:
Aren’t you the one bitching about the ones who want the big house/yard and multiple cars?
Nobody’s scolding you about the digs you like.
Nah, I'm just tired of Americans taking advantage of Americans. Want to live in the Palace of Versailles? I think it's stupid but go for it. Want to open an LLC and buyout every home that goes on the market in a neighborhood while artificially raising rents? Go fuck yourself.CID1990 wrote:Dude∞∞∞ wrote: No, I scold those who own multiple homes and use them as investment properties which drive up neighborhood prices and make home ownership unobtainable for people. And the snowball effect is that developers see this and end up abandoning the entry-level market.
We all know you favor a command economy
stop bullshitting on being on the same page with pretty much anybody here
∞∞∞ wrote:Nah, I'm just tired of Americans taking advantage of Americans. Want to live in the Palace of Versailles? I think it's stupid but go for it. Want to open an LLC and buyout every home that goes on the market in a neighborhood while artificially raising rents? Go fuck yourself.CID1990 wrote:
Dude
We all know you favor a command economy
stop bullshitting on being on the same page with pretty much anybody here
Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
My God you’re delusional. And you said you didn’t hate capitalism. Fucking liar.∞∞∞ wrote:No, I scold those who own multiple homes and use them as investment properties which drive up neighborhood prices and make home ownership unobtainable for people. And the snowball effect is that developers see this and end up abandoning the entry-level market.CID1990 wrote:
Aren’t you the one bitching about the ones who want the big house/yard and multiple cars?
Nobody’s scolding you about the digs you like.
Ah the age old pipe dream of the forever egalitarian∞∞∞ wrote:Nah, I'm just tired of Americans taking advantage of Americans. Want to live in the Palace of Versailles? I think it's stupid but go for it. Want to open an LLC and buyout every home that goes on the market in a neighborhood while artificially raising rents? Go **** yourself.CID1990 wrote:
Dude
We all know you favor a command economy
stop bullshitting on being on the same page with pretty much anybody here
Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
Holy shit you’re a idiot.∞∞∞ wrote:Nah, I'm just tired of Americans taking advantage of Americans. Want to live in the Palace of Versailles? I think it's stupid but go for it. Want to open an LLC and buyout every home that goes on the market in a neighborhood while artificially raising rents? Go fuck yourself.CID1990 wrote:
Dude
We all know you favor a command economy
stop bullshitting on being on the same page with pretty much anybody here
Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
You reveal your lack of understanding at every turn.∞∞∞ wrote:When the hell did the American dream become materialistic?
Growing up the American dream was to create a just and equitable society in which liberty bears fruit to prosperity. It wasn't a "big house with a backyard and a couple of cars."
Case in point. You need to stop typing.∞∞∞ wrote:Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
You're gonna need to do some 'splainin' here.∞∞∞ wrote: Nah, I'm just tired of Americans taking advantage of Americans. Want to live in the Palace of Versailles? I think it's stupid but go for it. Want to open an LLC and buyout every home that goes on the market in a neighborhood while artificially raising rents? Go fuck yourself.
Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
Why? Does it trigger you when moral failings and addiction to greed are called out? Throwing a few bucks towards the less fortunate doesn't absolve people from being merchants in front of the temple.89Hen wrote:Case in point. You need to stop typing.∞∞∞ wrote:Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
No, it just shows how ignorant and out of touch you are. Type away and just keep proving me right.∞∞∞ wrote:Why? Does it trigger you when moral failings and addiction to greed are called out? Throwing a few bucks towards the less fortunate doesn't absolve people from being merchants in front of the temple.89Hen wrote: Case in point. You need to stop typing.
So we dont agree....... I already knew that∞∞∞ wrote:No, I scold those who own multiple homes and use them as investment properties which drive up neighborhood prices and make home ownership unobtainable for people. And the snowball effect is that developers see this and end up abandoning the entry-level market.CID1990 wrote:
Aren’t you the one bitching about the ones who want the big house/yard and multiple cars?
Nobody’s scolding you about the digs you like.
Hes gonna tell you what your dream should be..... Just like he did right after he posted he agrees with usWinterborn wrote:∞∞∞ wrote: Nah, I'm just tired of Americans taking advantage of Americans. Want to live in the Palace of Versailles? I think it's stupid but go for it. Want to open an LLC and buyout every home that goes on the market in a neighborhood while artificially raising rents? Go fuck yourself.
Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
And what if that is what I think the American dream is for me?
Don't hate the player - hate the game...∞∞∞ wrote:No, I scold those who own multiple homes and use them as investment properties which drive up neighborhood prices and make home ownership unobtainable for people. And the snowball effect is that developers see this and end up abandoning the entry-level market.CID1990 wrote:
Aren’t you the one bitching about the ones who want the big house/yard and multiple cars?
Nobody’s scolding you about the digs you like.
89Hen wrote:Case in point. You need to stop typing.∞∞∞ wrote:Rent used to be a great way to save for a down-payment. Now it's become a burden.
Additionally, homes throughout American history were never seen as an investment. It's only in the last two or three decades where that attitude shifted thanks to capital market investors.
Chizzang wrote:Don't hate the player - hate the game...∞∞∞ wrote: No, I scold those who own multiple homes and use them as investment properties which drive up neighborhood prices and make home ownership unobtainable for people. And the snowball effect is that developers see this and end up abandoning the entry-level market.
My brother makes a living building houses that sit at the top of the max market value
It's the best way for him to maximize his time and investment
He says the same things you say about housing markets that are artificially bloated
It bothers him but he's not going to stop maximizing his efforts and efficiency
In Seattle it was in part because of Chinese money
Things have cooled off now because China has tightened the screws on their own rich folks
So... in short Trump has addressed a problem that you identify
Through Trumps direct actions, foreign money has slowed considerably into the high value markets
Heads up..!!!
BDKJMU wrote:Speaking of rankings, from today
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/no-us ... 2019-03-13
Obviously this is racist. All the top cities are non hispanic white. All the worst cities are black and brown..
Gabby Johnson is right.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:The American dream is whatever YOU think it is and you dont get to tell others what it is.∞∞∞ wrote:When the hell did the American dream become materialistic?
Growing up the American dream was to create a just and equitable society in which liberty bears fruit to prosperity. It wasn't a "big house with a backyard and a couple of cars."
Its an individual Pursuit of happiness.
89Hen wrote:No, it just shows how ignorant and out of touch you are. Type away and just keep proving me right.∞∞∞ wrote: Why? Does it trigger you when moral failings and addiction to greed are called out? Throwing a few bucks towards the less fortunate doesn't absolve people from being merchants in front of the temple.
at the all the snowflakes.
It was originally a lie sold by rich people to motivate the people they paid 25 cents for 14 hours of work.kalm wrote:89Hen wrote: No, it just shows how ignorant and out of touch you are. Type away and just keep proving me right.
Everyone is entitled to their own dreams.
The "American Dream" is a bit of a cultural/economic construct related to history. The Roosevelts felt it included a fair wage for a fair day's work that would enable a retirement with dignity. From the 50's-70's it included the ability to buy the humble house with a white picket fence and be able to put your kids through school...often times on a single salary.
Most importantly, each generation was looking forward better lifestyle than their parents.
That's been diminished for good or bad reasons.
But it's a worthy discussion and fair criticism that Trip is laying down here.
And nothing is stopping you! I live in the most dangerous/unhappiest cities inthe country according to these polls. I love it here.dbackjon wrote:BDKJMU wrote:Speaking of rankings, from today
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/no-us ... 2019-03-13
Obviously this is racist. All the top cities are non hispanic white. All the worst cities are black and brown..
All the good cities are socialist!
*You'reALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
THANKS for setting Trip straight (LOL) and educating the masses! Where do you find the time? Oh wiat your smarter than everyone....we wouldnt understand even if you told us!
Thanks!!!
