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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yes. The next progressive Hitler/Pol Pot is just waiting to be unleashed! :lol:
Many already parade this guy around as some sort of hero ...
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CID1990 wrote:
Of course they can

we have numerous examples from the 20th century of monsters doing the leftist lord's work

and coffeehouse socialists making "yes, but" caveats about how their hearts started out in the right place ... or their rage was justified they just took it too far, or it just wasnt done correctly- this time we'd get it right, or hey look (yes, but) they have single payer healthcare in Cuba


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Yes. The next progressive Hitler/Pol Pot is just waiting to be unleashed! :lol:
Sorry I confused you - I was referring to neither of those

there are plenty of lesser imps and demons in the leftist monster pantheon who precisely fit the description of what Chizz was asking

I'll just chalk your response up to dying to say something without anything to say


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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Of course they can

we have numerous examples from the 20th century of monsters doing the leftist lord's work

and coffeehouse socialists making "yes, but" caveats about how their hearts started out in the right place ... or their rage was justified they just took it too far, or it just wasnt done correctly- this time we'd get it right, or hey look (yes, but) they have single payer healthcare in Cuba
Don't laugh (you asshole)
But I think I just figured out who the Liberal Equivalent is... (you're already laughing I can hear it)

Hilary Clinton is the monster that would do the Lefts bidding
at any cost and with zero moral accountability

:nod:

This was not a set-up gag, I literally just figure that out 3 minutes ago
Sorry, I'll show myself out - I just "but Hilary'd" myself

:ohno:

Never mind:
Just delete the whole thread please
Actually she didn't occur to me on this one

but she does fit the bill, doesnt she?

I did wonder if your question was some kind of setup


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yes. The next progressive Hitler/Pol Pot is just waiting to be unleashed! :lol:
Sorry I confused you - I was referring to neither of those

there are plenty of lesser imps and demons in the leftist monster pantheon who precisely fit the description of what Chizz was asking

I'll just chalk your response up to dying to say something without anything to say


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It's hypocrisy, but at least it's self-interested and rational hypocrisy.

Trump says all the right stuff about abortion and the war on Christmas, so all is forgiven. :nod:

Evangelicals as a group voted more strategically than leftists that sat at home or voted for Jill while complaining about Nazi Trump. :nod:
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Sorry I confused you - I was referring to neither of those

there are plenty of lesser imps and demons in the leftist monster pantheon who precisely fit the description of what Chizz was asking

I'll just chalk your response up to dying to say something without anything to say


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Sure... :lol:
You're having a Jelly moment aren't you? And here I was thinking you were a more complex character than that..

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Of course they can

we have numerous examples from the 20th century of monsters doing the leftist lord's work

and coffeehouse socialists making "yes, but" caveats about how their hearts started out in the right place ... or their rage was justified they just took it too far, or it just wasnt done correctly- this time we'd get it right, or hey look (yes, but) they have single payer healthcare in Cuba
Don't laugh (you asshole)
But I think I just figured out who the Liberal Equivalent is... (you're already laughing I can hear it)

Hilary Clinton is the monster that would do the Lefts bidding
at any cost and with zero moral accountability

:nod:

This was not a set-up gag, I literally just figure that out 3 minutes ago
Sorry, I'll show myself out - I just "but Hilary'd" myself

:ohno:

Never mind:
Just delete the whole thread please
I'll add that there really isn't an equivalency on the left specifically - it is coded into Christianity. In no other religion (other than Buddhism, which I consider to be more of a philosophy) do you find the pervasive sense of fallibility among the deities (Im including all the saints, angels, you name it). Everyone in Christianity is fallen in one way or another, except The Man himself...

In fact, the only real anomalous behavior on the part of evangelicals in US politics is that they ever demanded moral leaders in the first place...
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CID1990 wrote:
In fact, the only real anomalous behavior on the part of evangelicals in US politics is that they ever demanded moral leaders in the first place...
Perhaps not, but they did demand morality from those that stood against them...
Morality was always at the center of the debate

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andy7171 wrote:I love it when Cleets tells us what to think.
How exactly am I telling you anything..?

:dunce:

and I would never assume you actually "Think" Andy...
Nobody thinks andy thinks but that doesnt mean you are not still being a smug prick :dunce:
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Gil Dobie wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I've thought about this several times

Since Trump won the election I haven't been able to figure why I don't find this really all that remarkable

then it hit me a couple weeks ago and I almost commented on it in a different thread

To the religious...criticizing a social liberal on moral grounds is easy and natural to do. And to Christians in particular, supporting a sinner/heathen/whatever who is perceived to be doing the work if the bearded man in the sky is also easy and natural to do

Christianity is literally steeped in story and tradition of reluctant pagan warriors for God - all the way back to Longinus who converted after piercing Jesus on the cross

In fact, good works for God performed by flawed heroes is the bedrock of the religion itself-- Trump is in some ways more fit for Christian adulation than someone on the other end of the morality scale

So yes - it is hypocritical - but it is also perfectly understandable if not predictable


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I still don't see the hypocrisy of voters, voting for a candidate that promises them to support their causes. The candidates background may turn off a few, but it comes down to who has the better chance of supporting your cause. So that's why, IMO, Trump had 46 % of Evangelical Christians voting for him. He vocally supported their cause.

If Trump promised these Evangelicals $100,000 each for their vote, but vocally was pro-abortion, then that would be hypocritical.
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css75 wrote:You guys still don’t get it. The Dems with all their bashing of Christians, threatening to revoke donations as tax deductible, fight the Little Sisters of the Poor and other groups over abortion on demand, demanding that feds pay for abortion and other things, leave us no choice but to vote and support Trump.


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Ibanez wrote:
css75 wrote:You guys still don’t get it. The Dems with all their bashing of Christians, threatening to revoke donations as tax deductible, fight the Little Sisters of the Poor and other groups over abortion on demand, demanding that feds pay for abortion and other things, leave us no choice but to vote and support Trump.


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There were 16 other people running for the GOP nomination. You had plenty of choices.
:lol:

SHhh...

They can't re-write history if you keep pointing out the lies and hypocrisy
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Chizzang wrote:
Ibanez wrote: There were 16 other people running for the GOP nomination. You had plenty of choices.
:lol:

SHhh...

They can't re-write history if you keep pointing out the lies and hypocrisy
Right. They had 16 options and personally - Kasich was their best bet (even though he's from Ohio).
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Ibanez wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
I still don't see the hypocrisy of voters, voting for a candidate that promises them to support their causes. The candidates background may turn off a few, but it comes down to who has the better chance of supporting your cause. So that's why, IMO, Trump had 46 % of Evangelical Christians voting for him. He vocally supported their cause.

If Trump promised these Evangelicals $100,000 each for their vote, but vocally was pro-abortion, then that would be hypocritical.
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:lol:

SHhh...

They can't re-write history if you keep pointing out the lies and hypocrisy
Right. They had 16 options and personally - Kasich was their best bet (even though he's from Ohio).
Best bet for what? Rationality, yes. But he had zero chance of winning the November election, so that's kind of a moot point.
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:lol:

SHhh...

They can't re-write history if you keep pointing out the lies and hypocrisy
Right. They had 16 options and personally - Kasich was their best bet (even though he's from Ohio).
Who selected Trump out of that group?
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89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Right. They had 16 options and personally - Kasich was their best bet (even though he's from Ohio).
Best bet for what? Rationality, yes. But he had zero chance of winning the November election, so that's kind of a moot point.
Thank you 89...
I just wanted to make sure I understood the evangelical position properly

The Means justify the end (period) and Morality is totally negotiable (Got it, thank you)

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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: Best bet for what? Rationality, yes. But he had zero chance of winning the November election, so that's kind of a moot point.
Thank you 89...
I just wanted to make sure I understood the evangelical position properly

The Means justify the end (period) and Morality is totally negotiable (Got it, thank you)

:shock:
I heard a lot of people say they were going to plug their nose and vote for Trump, while others said they didn't like Hilary, or both. None of them were involved in the primaries.
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BTW I think I posted some time ago...maybe during the Republican primaries...that the Trump thing is a cult thing. You know, total suspension of critical thinking and all. But I didn't think of it in terms of "religion."
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
In fact, the only real anomalous behavior on the part of evangelicals in US politics is that they ever demanded moral leaders in the first place...
Perhaps not, but they did demand morality from those that stood against them...
Morality was always at the center of the debate

:nod:
Well of course

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"They're neither moral nor majority."

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89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Right. They had 16 options and personally - Kasich was their best bet (even though he's from Ohio).
Best bet for what? Rationality, yes. But he had zero chance of winning the November election, so that's kind of a moot point.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Right. They had 16 options and personally - Kasich was their best bet (even though he's from Ohio).
Who selected Trump out of that group?
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Ibanez wrote:
css75 wrote:You guys still don’t get it. The Dems with all their bashing of Christians, threatening to revoke donations as tax deductible, fight the Little Sisters of the Poor and other groups over abortion on demand, demanding that feds pay for abortion and other things, leave us no choice but to vote and support Trump.


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There were 16 other people running for the GOP nomination. You had plenty of choices.
14 of the other ones were hacks that would have done absolutely nothing on immigration, ISIS, and the other problems.


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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:lol:

SHhh...

They can't re-write history if you keep pointing out the lies and hypocrisy
Right. They had 16 options and personally - Kasich was their best bet (even though he's from Ohio).

Kasich, bought and paid for by George Soros, great choice.


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